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With the Red Bull Culture Clash on the horizon, Wiley talks to Timeout about what he thinks about Grime of today, Stormzy, Skepta, Drake and, of course, Dizzee Rascal getting stabbed in Ayia Napa.

Dizzee spoke about the stabbing himself in a recent interview on Vladtv. The Bow MC hinted that it was Wiley's fault he was in that situation, while Wiley and Megaman responded to the interview on twitter.

Check out the snippets from the interview below.

Are you pleased to see the new wave of grime artists coming through?
‘It’s a great thing. It’s good to see something that you’ve started grow.’
You tweeted Stormzy saying that your upcoming album ‘Godfather’ couldn’t have happened without him. Are you inspired by young MCs who were once inspired by you?
‘Yeah, and if I wasn’t, I wouldn’t be relevant. I like that Stormzy has put in work to bring the sound back. No matter what I did in the past, God wasn’t going to let me bring the sound back. He’s looking at me going: “You know what? You’ve had every chance in the world. You’ve had every deal, every penny. Now let someone else come through.” And Stormzy is the kind of good-hearted kid who can do that.’
Big US artists like Drake and Kanye seem to be supporting grime at the moment. Do they need its popularity to broaden their appeal over here?
‘I’ll be honest with you – I don’t think Americans like grime. Azealia Banks said what she really thought the other day. I’m not talking about the racist stuff, I mean her saying that “grime is garbage”: that’s how they all think. They like grime as a form of entertainment, like boxing or the Olympics. But when they hear an English accent MCing, they can’t accept it on the same level they can accept hip hop.’
What about Drake? Given all his support for Skepta, he can’t think like that?
‘Maybe not him. He seems to understand. But every other North American, they appreciate it, but they can’t put our accent before their own. It’s sad and it’s brutal and no one wants to hear me say it, but after all the years I’ve been doing it I’ve finally realised it.’
You’re finally going to tell people what happened in Ayia Napa? There have been rumours for years.
‘You know what the sad truth of all that business with Dizzee getting stabbed is? I hate saying this, but I always say it: if he hadn’t got stabbed, grime wouldn’t have been in The Sun. He got stabbed and then bro, the WHOLE of England was talking about it. It took that to get our sound into the nation’s ears. That’s the sad side of things.’
Do you think there’s a chance that you and Dizzee will ever talk to each other again?
‘I would work with him any day of my life if I could. I love him like a brother. There’s no reason why we don’t talk. We haven’t got beef – remember, I was with him when he got rushed in Ayia Napa. The reason we haven’t spoken for so many years? Ah, no one wants to tell the truth. Actually, you want to know the truth? I’m gonna tell you the truth.’
We’d love to know the truth.
‘Okay, basically, me and Dizzee went out one night [in Ayia Napa] and there was some fighting with another crew – I won’t say who, but basically everyone knows. Then the next day, I decided to carry it on – I didn’t pull out a knife. I was just fighting. Me and another guy went looking for them again. Dizzee just rode off, because in his head, he’s probably thinking: “What the fuck are you doing? That was last night! It’s just gonna carry on!” Well, after we started it up again, those guys came looking for us. But the person they found was Dizzee. The thing we done the next morning led them to go looking for us, but see him and stab him.’
So the reason you don’t speak is because you’re partly responsible for him getting stabbed?
‘Yeah, that’s the real reason. Now I’m older, I can see: Dizzee in his head will always be thinking: “I know we got into a beef. I know something started. But you lot carried it on the next day. If you had left it I wouldn’t have got stabbed.” That is the reason me and Dizzee haven’t spoken all these years. Listen, out of all the interviews I’ve done or the interviews he’s done and out of all the people in the middle chatting shit, that is the realest thing ever about it.’
How do you feel about that?
‘If we didn’t move to them the next day, then they might not have come back with knives looking for us and seen Dizzee. If he wants to blame me, if he wants me to take some responsibility for the situation, then I’ll say: Yes.’
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